Tonight on Showbiz Tonight, host AJ Hammer speaks with Real Housewife Camille Grammer about her comments on Kelsey as they head toward divorce and when she found out the marriage was over. Showbiz Tonight airs at 5p (ET) on HLN.

Hammer:  Was there a time -- I know that we mentioned that you were blindsided by it, but was there a time prior from you getting the news from your friend or getting tipped off by your friend that you thought, something ain't right here?

Grammer:  Well, you know, Kelsey's the type of guy that used to call me at least 10 times a day.  He was a very doting, very loving husband.  And he started pulling back and he started becoming more distant, so I knew then that something was happening.  But this started, you know, right after he left in the end of February. 

But, you know, I was on Christmas vacation, you know, a few weeks ago and two friends of mine that don't know each other came to me and told me that Kelsey already told them last Christmas vacation that he was --

Hammer:  No kidding.

Grammer:  -- planning on leaving me.  So -- and this was before I got the offer to do "Housewives."

Hammer:  So is this -- the pain just continues.  That's unfortunate, I'm sorry to hear that.

Grammer:  It's hard.  It's hard.

Hammer:  I do want to get some more news that's out that that you're kind of making today because it's been all over TV today that in an interview you insinuated that Kelsey likes to wear women's clothes, that he's a cross-dresser.  Could you please set the record straight for me on that?

Grammer:  Well, you know what?  We were talking basically about the play "La Cage Folles" and I said, well, you know, soon you could say -- as he got the offer, I go this is such a great role for him.  I just knew it would be a perfect role for him.  And then one thing led to another and then all of a sudden Howard and Robyn and I were talking about it and making fun and making a joke of it.  But you know --

Hammer:  This was on "The Howard Stern Show."

Grammer:  This is, of course, on the "The Howard Stern Show."  I'm not going to say that about my husband, you know?  I can't say that about him.

Hammer:  OK, fair enough.

Do you regret the whole conversation coming up?

Grammer:  No, I think it was funny.  You know, we were laughing about it, maybe I was just blowing off some steam, having a good time.

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